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Hey, this is Peter with a word about today's show.

I just want to do a good job of setting it up for you.

This is Sophia Chang, who's got a really interesting career, a lot of different stuff in particular.

She worked with some early hip-hop folks that I'm fond of, namely members of the Wu-Tang Clan.

We talked about how she got into that business and just as importantly, how you might break into the music business or some other industry you've always wanted to get into.

Now, here's my chat with Sophia. This is Recode Media with Peter Kafka. That's me. That person you may have heard laughing just now is Sophia Chang. Welcome, Sophia. Thank you for having me, Peter. I love your last name, by the way. I'm stuck with it, so I'm glad you like it. Are you related at all? No one knows. Then it's a yes. Yes, we can go yes. Okay, good. And I'm, you know, I don't know if there's any other similarities, and the relationship may be through like subletting in Prague, but I'm just going to be right. Are you related to anyone famous? I am other than myself.

No.

Okay. Let's tell people who you are in case they don't know. Okay. Do you want to just tell people about your book? I would love to, thank you. First, you are an author? Do we call you an author? Yes, we call me an author, which I only came to only a couple of years ago. My name is Sophia Chang. I'm the baddest bitch in the room.

You can't tell this because you're not in the room with me, but Sophia is wearing a T-shirt that says she is the baddest bitch in the room. She has a jacket, which says she is the baddest bitch in the room. Yes, I'm my walking sandwich board. I am a Korean-Canadian. I call myself a matri architect. Do you like that?

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