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How the Woke Fail the Paradox of Tolerance

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🗓️ 11 February 2021

⏱️ 35 minutes

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The New Discourses Podcast with James Lindsay, Episode 21 In 1945, even as the Nazis fell from power, Karl Popper told us how to find the line where free, liberal societies are in imminent danger in his book The Open Society and Its Enemies, most simply summarizing a crucial part of the argument in a short footnote about "The Paradox of Tolerance." There, Popper lays out a short summary of when a free society should and must not tolerate intolerant movements if it is to survive. It is not only when they espouse and preach intolerance but when they also cease to be amenable to reason and rational debate, forbid their followers from listening to reason and rational debate, cannot be held in check by public opinion, and encourage their followers to respond to arguments with "fists or pistols," i.e., violence of some form or another. I contend that the Woke, uniquely, have crossed this line in this episode of the New Discourses Podcast. They are absolutely intolerant, will not debate or listen to alternative perspectives, and, unlike all other hate movements that fail those two criteria, have grown to be completely unchecked and uncheckable by public opinion. This places them outside of the range to which tolerance should be extended in free, open societies, and it identifies them uniquely as a threat to their continuance. Join me to hear my argument for how Karl Popper warned us in 1945 so that we might see this situation when it arose. Infographic: http://bit.ly/ParadoxToleranceInfographic For more on the idea of tolerance, check out the entry on "tolerance" (https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-tolerance/) in my Critical Social Justice Encyclopedia and check out the four-part series on Herbert Marcuse's "Repressive Tolerance" on the New Discourses podcast, part 1 here: https://newdiscourses.com/2021/01/how-not-to-resolve-the-paradox-of-tolerance/ -James Support New Discourses: paypal.me/newdiscourses newdiscourses.locals.com/support patreon.com/newdiscourses subscribestar.com/newdiscourses youtube.com/channel/UC9K5PLkj0N_b9JTPdSRwPkg/join Website: newdiscourses.com Follow: facebook.com/newdiscourses twitter.com/NewDiscourses instagram.com/newdiscourses newdiscourses.locals.com pinterest.com/newdiscourses linkedin.com/company/newdiscourses minds.com/newdiscourses reddit.com/r/NewDiscourses Podcast: @newdiscourses podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-…es/id1499880546 bit.ly/NDGooglePodcasts open.spotify.com/show/0HfzDaXI5L4LnJQStFWgZp stitcher.com/podcast/new-discourses © 2021 New Discourses. All rights reserved.

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0:00.0

Hello everybody, it's James Lindsay, you are listening to the new Discourses podcast.

0:25.4

Today I want to talk about as a paradox of tolerance by the philosopher Karl Popper.

0:29.8

And I want to point out that the woke have exposed themselves as being that which Popper

0:35.0

was warning about.

0:36.6

The woke are the thing that we have to recognize.

0:41.4

And the reason I want to talk about this, I get a lot of flack.

0:45.1

I voted for Trump as I had to repeat infinitely many times now.

0:51.3

And people can't, I don't know how many times I have to explain it, I explain it in a podcast,

0:56.4

on other people's podcasts like 10 times, I explained it on television in three countries,

1:00.5

I have to explain it, explain it, and I still get asked every time I go, how could you possibly,

1:04.4

I don't understand, James never says why he voted for Trump.

1:09.3

It makes no sense.

1:10.4

It's as if people are unable to hear something that doesn't cohere to their vision of reality.

1:18.6

No matter how many times or how clearly you explain it to them.

1:22.0

Well, the reason is, if you recall, I did a podcast, Joe Biden is not the room.

1:28.3

Right after I announced that I was going to vote for Trump, this would have been, I guess,

1:32.0

October, it was a very late hour decision given the election.

1:36.6

I did a podcast and I explained that if the situation were normal, I would probably

1:42.8

be voting for Biden or not voting or voting for myself or something.

1:48.7

However, especially I probably would have not voted or voted for myself off-voted, protest-voted,

1:55.8

but at any rate, I felt like the situation is not normal.

2:00.4

I said it over and over again.

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