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The Socialist Program with Brian Becker

How the War Will End: Israel Can Kill, But Can’t Win

The Socialist Program with Brian Becker

The Socialist Program

Politics, News

4.7587 Ratings

🗓️ 16 November 2023

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Israeli forces raided Gaza’s al-Shifa Hospital, including the emergency department, the surgical department, and the maternity ward in their ongoing assault that has killed more than 11,000 Palestinians. On Friday, people all over the world are walking out, striking, and protesting the genocide—read more at shutitdown4palestine.org.

Brian Becker is joined by Layan Sima Fuleihan, a popular educator, organizer, the Education Director at The People’s Forum, and an editor at 1804 Books.

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0:00.0

Israeli military forces raided Gaza's Al-Shifa hospital,

0:05.0

including the emergency department, the surgical department, and the maternity ward.

0:11.0

People all over the world this Friday, November 17th, are going on strike.

0:16.0

They're demonstrating. They're going to shut it down in solidarity with the people of Palestine.

0:22.6

We need a new system. We need a new society.

0:26.6

We need to demand that which may have sounded impossible even a few weeks ago,

0:31.6

but is not only realizable, but an imperative necessity. Welcome to the Socialist Program. I'm your host, Brian Becker.

1:02.0

Today we're talking with Leanne Sima Fulihon, a popular educator organizer, the education director at the People's Forum and an an editor at 1804 Books. Welcome to the show,

1:14.1

Leanne. Thank you for having me. All around the world on Friday, people are going to be in the streets.

1:20.2

Here in New York City, where we are in Washington, D.C., in Atlanta, in San Francisco, in L.A., all over the

1:27.4

Middle East, the students in occupied Palestine

1:30.2

have called for a day of walkout. This is going to be massive. This is going to be something

1:34.6

unlike anything the world has experienced, at least in the recent history. But it takes place

1:41.0

in the context of this horror. The Israeli government has seized the hospital.

1:46.0

Remember a couple of weeks ago, they were saying, oh, we didn't bomb that hospital. That was a rocket

1:50.9

from Islamic jihad or something like that, some nonsense. They were bombing hospitals. Now they've

1:56.2

seized the hospital. Patients are running for their lives. The Biden administration seems not to have a

2:02.4

problem with it. As a matter of fact, we're going to have a clip which will play in a little while

2:05.9

from the Pentagon saying, oh, no, it's fine to take over hospitals and crush hospitals

2:11.2

because Hamas was using it as a military operation center. We're going to talk about whether that's

2:16.3

true or not. But anyway,

2:18.3

this is the context, a war against civilians, 11,000 plus, maybe 12,000. We don't really know,

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