From the ACLU, this is at Liberty.

I'm Emerson Sykes, a staff attorney here at the ACLU and your host.

18 years after the attacks of September 11, 2001, a trial date was recently set for the men

accused of plotting those attacks. But what has taken so long? And is a fair trial even possible?

On this anniversary of 9-11, we're replaying an interview from last year with Hina Shamsi,

director of the ACLU's National Security Project.

Hina talked to my predecessor, Lee Rowland, about how America's response to 9-11 has corrupted our institutions

and the role that torture has played in the process. To learn more about how the ACLU confronted

government abuses after 9-11, visit www.aclu.org slash 9-11 response.

This September 11th marked 17 years since the largest terror attack on U.S. soil and our nation's

political response to that tragedy. The war on terror has

dominated America's foreign policy, military priorities, and human rights record ever since.

Perhaps no place on earth is a better symbol of that war than the prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

In 2009, President Obama signed an executive order trying to close it,

and earlier this year, President Trump signed an executive order to keep it open.

Forty prisoners remain there today. What does the continued existence of Guantanamo say about the

rule of law since 9-11? Here to help us answer that is Hina Shamsi, the director of the ACLU's National Security Project.

Hina has represented CIA torture victims and Guantanamo Bay detainees and has, unfortunately,

had a close-up view of what's gone horribly wrong in America's War on Terror.

Hena, that downer of an intro notwithstanding, thank you for being here.

My pleasure, despite the downer of an introduction.

So let's start with Guantanamo.

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