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The Political Scene | The New Yorker

How the Wagner Group Became Too Powerful for Putin to Punish

The Political Scene | The New Yorker

The New Yorker

Politics, Washington, News, Obama, Wnyc, President, Lizza, Barack, Wickenden

4.33.9K Ratings

🗓️ 2 August 2023

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

On June 23, 2023, tanks rolled into Moscow and into the southern Russian city of Rostov-on-Don, and troops surrounded military and government buildings. They were fighters from the Wagner Group, a private battalion. The group’s leader is Yevgeny Prigozhin, who sold hot dogs and ran a restaurant on a boat where Putin liked to dine before he became the head of this mercenary outfit. On that June day, he was initiating the strongest challenge to the Kremlin since the fall of the Soviet Union. 

Joshua Yaffa has written an extraordinary piece about the Wagner Group’s global reach, its brutal battlefield tactics in Ukraine, and its mysterious decision to mutiny. He joins Tyler Foggatt to discuss it, and to examine how Prigozhin became such a strange and significant player within Russia’s military apparatus.

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I'm Tyler Faggett and I'm a senior editor at The New Yorker.

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On June 23rd, tanks rolled into Moscow and the Russian city of Rostov-on-Don and troops surrounded

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military and government buildings. These were fighters from the Wagner Group, a private military battalion.

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The group's leader is Yevgeny Progogsin, who used to run a restaurant on a boat where Vladimir

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Putin liked to dine.

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Now he was initiating the strongest challenge to the Kremlin since the fall of the Soviet Union.

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Joshua Yoffa began reporting on the Wagner Group, months before their attempted coup.

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In a recent story for the New Yorker, he documented how the mercenaries went from

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fighting alongside Russian forces in Ukraine to staging an armed mutiny against Vladimir Putin himself.

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The story lays bare the surprising vulnerabilities in Putin's regime. And it's also just a stunning

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piece of journalism. The magazine's editor, David Remnick, recently said that never before in Putin's 24 years of power has he read an investigation of Kremlin politics as astonishing or as revealing as this one.

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Hi, Josh. Thank you so much for being here.

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