Hey, y'all, welcome back to the Don't Mom Alone podcast.

I'm your host, Heather McFadion, and this is the place where I get to walk alongside you

and connect you with people and resources so you know that you don't mom alone.

In this episode, number 506, I'm welcoming to the show, Ian Kron.

Everybody should really understand the 12 steps and consider them as a way of life

around which they could organize their faith.

And it's genius.

And when you think about it, these groups meet in the basement of churches and people upstairs have no idea what's going on downstairs and the miracles that are happening on a regular basis in those rooms.

If Ian's name seems familiar to you, maybe you've read his quintessential book on

Enneagram called The Road Back to You.

He is not only an author, but a speaker and a trained psychotherapist, songwriter, an Episcopal

priest.

And today, he is vulnerably sharing his own journey through addiction and sobriety and this process that you may

have heard of 12 step a a alan on well his book's called the fix and he's helping make 12 steps

accessible to people to recognize that we are not good at managing our life, that the solution is not us.

Self-help is a fallacy, that we need a divine source to allow and surrender to that divine

source for ultimate healing and transformation.

If you've heard of 12 step, if you've heard of AA or Al-Anon, you've been curious,

my hope is listening to this episode is your half step to working through the 12 steps

for whatever is holding you back, whether it is a phone addiction,

a success addiction, approval addiction. We all have something that is holding us back and

we're ready to be transformed. Your best move after listening is to show a similar kindness to a

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