How the Top 1% of Real Estate Investors Pay $0 in Taxes (Legally) | Ep. 1,201
Lifetime Cash Flow Through Real Estate Investing
Rod Khleif
4.6 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 12 January 2026
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
Gian Pazzia is a nationally recognized authority on advanced tax strategies for real estate investors, CPAs, and business owners, with more than 25 years of experience. A former Big 4 structural engineer turned tax incentive strategist, he is the co-founder of KBKG, the industry leader in cost segregation studies with offices nationwide, and has helped clients save over $10 billion in taxes since 1999. A past president and longtime board member of the American Society of Cost Segregation Professionals, Gian has testified before the IRS, published extensively in leading tax journals, spoken to thousands nationwide, and pioneered the first online cost segregation platform, making sophisticated tax strategies more accessible to real estate owners.
Here's some of the topics we covered:
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Why civil engineers are the secret weapon behind cost segregation
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Cost segregation finally explained in plain English
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The 2026 depreciation shift and how it could supercharge your returns
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How investors unlock massive first year write offs
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Cost segregation versus a 1031 and which wins when
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What cost segregation actually costs and why it's worth it
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Estate tax planning ninja moves most investors never hear about
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The short term rental tax loopholes smart investors are using
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome. This is the Lifetime Cash Flow through Real Estate Investing podcast. |
| 0:06.6 | This is where you'll learn strategies to help you achieve lifetime financial freedom through real estate investment. |
| 0:12.5 | Your host, Rod Clef, has owned over 2,000 homes and apartments. |
| 0:17.3 | And he brings experts in all aspects of real estate investment and management onto the show. |
| 0:23.3 | Now, here's your host, Rod Cleef. |
| 0:26.9 | Welcome back to Lifetime cash flow through real estate investing. I'm Rod Cleef, and I'm thrilled you're here. |
| 0:31.8 | I know you're going to get tremendous value from the gentleman I'm interviewing today. |
| 0:34.7 | His name is Gian Pazia. And he's a really a national |
| 0:38.6 | recognized expert in pretty much anything tax relating to real estate. He's, he has a leading |
| 0:46.8 | firm that does cost segregation studies. They've got offices all over the country. And we're going to |
| 0:52.7 | get a lot of value today.an welcome to show brother thanks rod |
| 0:55.5 | it's super excited to be here thank you thank you uh yeah i know that we were going to do this |
| 1:01.1 | live and i'm embarrassed to say i had an emergency come up if i recall i don't remember why i |
| 1:06.2 | had to i had to cancel and so now we're doing this on Zoom, but, you know, the bottom line is the |
| 1:11.6 | material is the material is the material. |
| 1:13.4 | So we'll, you know, let's let's have some fun and get into it. |
| 1:16.9 | What, what, you know, give us a little background on you and why you got into this, into |
| 1:23.9 | this business, you know, give us a little, you can do much better job with your profile |
| 1:29.3 | than your background than I just did. Yeah, yeah. So my background's in civil engineering, |
| 1:35.9 | structural engineering. I went to school at Purdue University and, you know, sometime in my third |
| 1:44.1 | or fourth year, I was on the five year plan by the way |
| 1:46.5 | I ended up realizing you know I don't want to be a civil engineer that was designing buildings |
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