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Hi, my name is Monica, or whimsy as I'm known on the trail. I'm calling from Yellowstone

National Park, where I've just passed the 1,000 mile mark out of 3,000 miles in my hike

from Canada to Mexico on the Continental Divide Trail.

This podcast was recorded at 1.5 p.m. on Monday, October 20, 2025.

Things may have changed by the time you hear this, but I'll still be making my way through

this vast wilderness, relying on NPR to keep me up to date on the outside world.

Okay, here's the show.

I'm hoping she has a map as well, in addition to NPR.

Yeah, I mean, look, can we guide people through the continental divide, probably?

What can NPR not do?

I wouldn't want to

promise that, though. You can map too. Map, Almanac would be good. Good connection, lots of water snacks. Yes. Trail snacks, obviously. Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Dupa Shiverom. I cover the White House. I'm Miles Parks. I cover voting. And Colorado Public Radio's Benta Berkland is here with us today. Hi, Benta. Hey,

thanks for having me. Of course. So today on the show, we're talking about the transformation

of Dominion voting systems. That's a company that provides ballot counting machines and was at the

center of some election-related conspiracy theories in 2020. The company was recently sold and has been renamed Liberty Vote.

So we're going to start just with that. Miles, remind us what this controversy was surrounding

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