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Pod Save America

How the Right Took Over the Media

Pod Save America

Crooked Media

News, Politics

4.683.5K Ratings

🗓️ 9 February 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Ben Smith, former media columnist at the New York Times and now the editor-in-chief of Semafor, joins Dan to talk about today's ultra-challenging news media landscape. The industry is significantly weaker than it was in 2016, and Trump's aggressive lawsuits have the executives in charge of CBS and ABC scrambling to appease him. Will the death blow for America's free press come from within? Smith runs through what we should have learned from the first Trump presidency, how cults of personality rule in journalism just like they rule in politics, and why the dominance of the Times is terrible for fascism-proofing the country.

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Music dot com slash crooked zip recru from the churn to have longer-form conversations about the big ideas and forces shaping news and politics. My guest today is Ben Smith, the co-founder and editor-in-chief of the news site

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semaphore. Ben is a longtime reporter. He worked for Politico, was the editor of BuzzFeed News,

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and was the New York Times media critic. So he has a ton of experience covering the coverage.

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