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Pushback with Aaron Mate

How the OPCW’s Syria probe censored science

Pushback with Aaron Mate

Pushback with Aaron Maté

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4.7594 Ratings

🗓️ 14 December 2021

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Support Pushback at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/aaronmate New reports explore how the OPCW suppressed findings that undermined US-led allegations of a chemical weapons attack in Douma, Syria in April 2018. Dr. Piers Robinson and Aaron Maté discuss the latest revelations on how the OPCW censored science. Senior OPCW officials doctored the original report; erased the conclusions of expert toxicologists who ruled out chlorine gas as the cause of death; and thwarted the key investigate area of forensic pathology, which could have helped determine how the dozens of civilian victims in Douma lost their lives. Instead of explaining the extensive suppression, OPCW Director General Fernando Arias has avoided questions; offered false excuses; and smeared the veteran scientists who challenged the cover-up from within. Guest: Dr. Piers Robinson. Co-Director of the Organisation for Propaganda Studies, and convenor of the Working Group on Syria, Propaganda and Media. Working with the Berlin Group 21, led by veteran diplomats Hans von Sponeck and Jose Bustani to seek accountability for the OPCW cover-up. Links: Berlin Group 21: https://berlingroup21.org/ Piers Robinson: “The OPCW Douma Investigation: Manipulation of Key Toxicology and Related Information Regarding Alleged Victims between the Original Interim Report and the Final Report” https://syriapropagandamedia.org/1200-2 Aaron Maté: "Corrupting Science" series at The Grayzone Part 1: “In Syria probe, OPCW erased experts’ inconvenient findings” https://thegrayzone.com/2021/11/22/corrupting-science-in-syria-probe-opcw-erased-experts-inconvenient-findings/ Part 2: “Shunning forensic expertise, OPCW left Douma murders in Syria unsolved” https://thegrayzone.com/2021/12/06/corrupting-science-part2/

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0:00.0

Welcome to Pushback. I'm Aaron Mette.

0:05.8

Joining me is Dr. Pierce Robinson. He is co-director of the Organization for Propaganda Studies

0:11.5

and convener of the Working Group on Syria, Propaganda, and Media.

0:16.4

Also working with the Berlin Group 21, which is led by the veteran diplomats Hans von Sponek and Jose Bustani, to seek accountability for the OPCW's Syria cover-up scandal.

0:28.6

Pierce Robertson, welcome back to pushback.

0:31.6

Good to be with you, Arlen.

0:33.4

So both you and I have some lengthy reports up right now about the OBCW cover-up scandal,

0:41.5

advancing the story somewhat, going into detail about just how this investigation of an alleged

0:47.8

chemical attack in Duma, Syria was compromised.

0:51.3

And so we thought it would be good to give an update on our reporting, especially in the

0:56.1

wake of this recent conference of state parties at the OPCW, where the OPCW director general

1:02.3

Fernando Arias, who really now is the face of the cover-up, he's been covering up for the cover-up.

1:08.2

He was just reappointed to a second term. So your new lengthy

1:14.5

study up at Syriapropaganda Media.org is called the OPCW at Duma Investigation,

1:23.3

manipulation of key toxicology and related information regarding alleged victims between the

1:29.0

original interim report and the final report. And this gets to a topic that I recently reported

1:34.2

on at the gray zone in a multi-part series that I'm doing on the corruption of the doom investigation

1:40.2

about how senior OPCW officials essentially censored one of the probe's most damning findings,

1:47.9

which is that a group of German toxicologists, expert toxicologists, they looked at footage

1:54.1

and photos of the victims in Duma, and they ruled out chlorine gas as the cause of death. And this finding was in the original report,

2:04.1

but it was centered. It was taken out and it was left out of the final report, a final report

2:10.5

that claimed that there are reasonable grounds to believe that a chlorine gas attack, in fact,

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