Tann, it's got the code it's going to launch.

It's a unit system.

I know this.

It's all the files of the whole park.

It tells her everything.

Sir, he's uploading the virus.

The Eagle one. The package is being delivered.

If you listen to the President of the United States, you'd know that to him, and at least some of his supporters,

journalists, well, we're your enemy.

I called the fake news the enemy of the people, and they are.

You know, CNN, fake news, MSNBC, you know, that's really the enemy of the people.

We know that according to Reporters Without Borders, or the CPJ, the rate of journalists being killed just seems to be going up.

Not only that, we tend to be ideal intel targets for intelligence agencies and law enforcement.

In other words, we are under surveillance more than ever, vulnerable to cyber attacks and spying.

This week marks six months since the horrific and outrageous murder of Jamal Khashoggi by the Saudi regime.

Reporting suggests to hack chats between him and another Saudi dissident helped his killers.

Think about that.

Today we've got Runa Sandvik, a former hacker turned senior director of information security at the New York Times,

to talk about the very hard task

of how she keeps journalists safe online in 2019.

I'm Ben Maku, and this is Cyber.

So, Runa, it's 2019.

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