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Today, the so-called War on Terror ushered in a new era of U.S. Forever Wars.

Our war on terror begins with al-Qaeda, but it does not end there.

It will not end until every terrorist group of global reach has been found, stopped,

and defeated.

From Afghanistan to Vietnam,

American public opinion kept turning against conflict.

So why does the U.S. keep entering into them?

Well, a new book says it's because it was never about military victory to begin with.

I'm Kevin Horton, and this is The Take.

When the United States intervenes in foreign countries, it often tells the world it's about

protecting freedom.

But according to a new book called The Myth of American Idealism, that's far from true. The book is written by Noam Chomsky,

a longtime U.S. foreign policy critic and one of the world's most cited living authors, and Nathan Robinson,

editor-in-chief of the U.S. magazine Current Affairs.

I recently sat down with Robinson to talk about the book.

So Nathan, I mean, wow, Nome Chomsky.

Yeah, right?

I mean, they say, don't meet your heroes.

You didn't just meet him.

You wrote a book with them.

What was the experience like collaborating with someone you grew up reading and idolizing?

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