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How the Knicks Finally Escaped Their Old Mistakes & Big Offseason Questions for Cavs, Giannis, Kawhi and More

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RealGM NBA Radio with Wes Goldberg

Sports, News, Basketball, Sports News

4.7 β€’ 627 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 26 May 2026

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

The New York Knicks are headed to the NBA Finals, and their run raises a fascinating team-building question: how did they build a championship contender without relying on homegrown lottery picks? Wes Goldberg is joined by Gavin Schall of Locked On Knicks to break down how New York built its Finals team around Jalen Brunson, OG Anunoby, Karl-Anthony Towns and Mikal Bridges. Unlike past Knicks regimes that chased shortcuts with moves like Eddy Curry, Joakim Noah, Andrea Bargnani and Steve Francis, this version of the Knicks showed patience, adjusted the roster over time and built a real championship formula. Then, John Wilmes of RealGM joins to talk about the biggest NBA offseason questions. What should the Cleveland Cavaliers do after falling short? Where could Giannis Antetokounmpo or Kawhi Leonard land if they hit the trade market? What happens with Ja Morant? And which surprise stars β€” including Devin Booker, Joel Embiid, Kyrie Irving, Alperen Sengun and Zion Williamson β€” could become trade candidates?

Transcript

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0:00.0

The Knicks are going to the finals. The Cavs are facing some big questions this summer,

0:04.2

and we've got a lot of offseason talk and learn lessons about how to build a championship team that we're talking about today. First, I'm going to be joined by Gavin Shaw, the co-host of Lockdown Knicks, to talk about the Knicks and how they built their finals team. Then John Wilmes from RealGM.com is going to jump on to talk about a bunch of offseason topics,

0:26.5

including Best Trade Destinations for Janus and Kauai, and then some surprising trade candidates.

0:27.3

Let's jump in.

0:41.8

All right, really excited to be talking with Gavin Shaw, the co-host of Lockedaw Knicks here.

0:44.7

The morning after the Knicks sweep the Cleveland Cavaliers.

0:51.1

They're making it to the NBA finals first time since 1999. Gavin, you and XJ do an awesome job covering this Knicks run over at Lockdown Knicks.

0:55.9

And you guys do a great job of covering the strategy, how they got here, all that kind of stuff. But before we get to any of that

0:59.5

boring X's and O's stuff, I want to start with the emotional component of all of this, because like I

1:06.0

just said, first NBA finals appearance since 1999, and the Knicks do it in a way that feels dominant.

1:13.7

It feels like a crescendo of sorts, right?

1:17.0

11 straight playoff wins now.

1:19.8

They're winning these games by an average margin of more than 22, 23 points.

1:23.9

Just an absolute dominant run through the Eastern Conference, unlike anything we've seen,

1:28.9

maybe even since the Celtics, you just look at the numbers.

1:32.2

This is a better run than what the Celtics had in 2024.

1:35.8

Let's go to the feelings part of this, Gavin.

1:37.8

What's it feel like right now for Knicks fans?

1:40.1

I'm going to get there.

1:41.0

I need to give you one number before we get to feelings.

1:43.8

Tim Bontem's had the stat last night. Their margin of victory over these 11 games is not just the most in playoff history. It's the most over any 11 game stretch in NBA history. That is the number that blew my, I mean, it doesn't, in some ways it makes sense because I guess you just play an opponent and you find a weakness and you break them and then there's no alternative.

2:03.1

You don't have to pivot.

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