How the Iran-Iraq War Shaped the Modern World

Angry Planet

Matthew Gault

War, Politics, Conflict, Government, History, News

4.3 • 882 Ratings

🗓️ 19 February 2021

⏱️ 45 minutes

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We live in a world shaped by the Iraq War. No, not that Iraq War. No, not that one either. We’re talking about the Iran-Iraq war. Just after Iran’s Islamic Revolution, it fought an eight year war with Iraq. The details of that war are incredible, and in the west, little known. Children cleared minefields, Iraq used chemical weapons, drones flew through the air, and helicopters engaged in dog fights with jets. And the consequences of that war shaped the region and the world. The effects are still with us today.

Here to help us untangle all of this is Aram Shabanian, a graduate student of Non-Proliferation and Terrorism Studies at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies at Monterey. He also runs The Fulda Gap, a site dedicated to using OSINT to understand modern war.

Recorded 2/18/21

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0:00.0	Love this podcast support this show through the a cast supporter feature
0:05.1	It's up to you how much you give and there's no regular commitment. Just click the link in the show description to support now. March 16th, 1988.
0:17.0	They launched a chemical attack on the city of Halabja and it killed thousands of people.
0:23.2	Innocent people were succeeded in the streets and this was part of a broader campaign.
0:27.8	Again this gets covered up in the historical record much like what's happening in Syria gets covered up by the
0:33.2	chemical weapons there. Everybody pays attention to the chemical weapons
0:36.2	attack and they don't pay attention to the fact that there were also conventional
0:39.5	attacks happening against civilians. Not that one is more important than the other,
0:43.4	but they both need to be kept in mind.
0:45.2	And so in this case, it was the chemical attacks on Halabja
0:47.7	but also the bulldozing of entire communities
0:49.8	along the border with Iran to create a sterile zone. One day all of the facts in about 30 years time will be published.
1:04.0	When genocide has been carried out in this country almost with impunity,
1:09.0	and when it is near to completion,
1:12.0	when it is about intervention.
1:14.0	You don't get freedom.
1:17.0	You don't get freedom, people.
1:22.0	Freedom is never safeguarded people.
1:26.0	Anyone who is depriving you of freedom isn't deserving of a people approach. Hello, welcome to Angry Planet. I'm Matthew Galt. And I'm Jason Field.
1:51.0	We live in a world shaped by the Iraq war. No, not that Iraq war. No, not that one either. Talk about the Iran-Iraq war. Just after Iran's Islamic Revolution, it fought an eight-year war with a wreck.
2:03.7	The details of that war are incredible, and in the West, little known.
2:08.2	Children cleared minefields.
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