The reason that the hope of heaven can be such a powerful tool in this fight is that the promise of the gospel is that this ends in perfect holiness, actually.

That's where all this ends.

We know that one day we'll see him, and that when we do, our hearts will never be tempted by any of his competition ever again.

To see him is to love him with all of your heart and soul and mind and strength.

That day is coming.

And when it's here, we're done with sin, guaranteed.

And in the meantime, if we know that's how it ends, it helps us know both why we should

fight and how we should fight.

We should fight because we know that Jesus wins this battle when he returns.

He wins it for us.

So why wouldn't we fight a battle we know is already won?

Matt McCullough serves as pastor of Edgefield Church in Nashville, Tennessee, and as the author of Remember Heaven, Meditations on the World to Come for Life in the Meantime from Crossway.

Matt, thanks so much for joining me today on the Crossway podcast.

I'm so glad to be here. Thanks for having me back.

So the last time that we talked was in late 2020, I believe, right in the middle of the COVID

pandemic. You know, we were all the U.S. and around the world kind of reeling from what was going on,

trying to figure out what was this thing and how serious was it. How long are we going to be in

lockdown, all those things. And I thought it was really interesting because we talked about your first book with Crossway

called Remember Death.

Yeah.

And it's just quite the moment to have that kind of a conversation.

So I wonder for those who aren't familiar with that book, kind of just, could you summarize

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