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A bit of a different thing going on this week.

You've been immature and you've lied.

And now you're trying to turn it on me and manipulate me and gaslight me.

I was trying to manipulate you.

Diana, you would be chucking their clothes out of the window.

I know, I'd be like, are you joking?

I don't know.

I guess you'd have to ask. Someone that has sex. Someone that has sex. Right. And remember,

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Hello and welcome to the History Extra podcast from BBC History Magazine, Britain's best-selling history magazine.

I'm Ellie Gawthorthorne. From the glories of Mycenae to the life of a modern European nation,

Professor Roderick Beaton's new book, The Greeks, A Global History, charts the 4,000-year history of a people.

In conversation with BBC History Magazine editor Rob Atar, on today's podcast,

he examined some of the key moments in this journey and describes the Greek's astonishing legacy on the rest of the world. I guess we should begin with a rather basic but important question,

which is what do you or what do we mean by Greeks in this context?

My starting point in this book is the Greek language, because it's a remarkable fact that

Greek is one of only three languages still in regular daily use in the world today, that has a continuous record of use in speech

and writing that goes back for more than 3,000 years. And there are different ways in which the

idea of Greeks or even Greece as a place can be understood or defined.

But it's quite important for the approach I was taking in this book

that I started with the fact of the Greek language.

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