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How The Gains of 20th Century Feminism Are Under Threat (w/ Josie Cox)

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Current Affairs

Comedy, Government, News, Culture, Politics

4.4645 Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2024

⏱️ 31 minutes

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0:00.0

Welcome to Current Affairs. My name is Dakin Robinson. I'm the editor-in-chief of Current Affairs. My name is Nathan Robinson. I'm the editor-in-chief of Current Affairs Magazine.

0:26.0

I am joined today by the journalist Josie Cox. She has written for many publications, including Reuters, Waltzwick Journal, and The Independent, where she was the business editor.

0:38.9

She's now the author of the new book, Women, Money, Power, The Rise and Fall of Economic Equality.

0:50.1

Josie Cox, thank you for joining us on Current Affairs today.

0:53.4

Thank you for having me,

0:54.7

and what an introduction. I try to do it with some drama, some enthusiasm, some energy.

0:59.8

Love it. I will try and hear you accordingly. But your book has a powerful title that it's fun

1:06.0

to say, women, money, power. Excellent.

1:21.3

So I want to begin with, you open the book with a conversation you had with a CEO of a company with a commitment to equality.

1:30.8

And you peel back that commitment to equality and show that beneath the commitment to equality can lie some of the lingering ancient stereotypes and prejudices. Perhaps you could tell us a little bit more about

1:37.0

that. I would love to tell you more. And this story, every time I tell this story, I am

1:43.3

paranoid that I'm going to accidentally reveal

1:45.6

the identity of...

1:48.0

We wouldn't want that now, would we?

1:49.5

We're talking about, but true to the code of conduct of journalism, we agreed that it

1:56.3

was an off-the-record conversation.

1:57.7

So, unfortunately, one might say say the identity of this person will

2:02.2

never be revealed. That being said, I'd be delighted to tell you more about what happened during

2:06.5

that conversation. So this was, sort of have, you know, a good year into the global pandemic,

2:12.7

into the COVID-19 pandemic. The backdrop was that, you know, what we'd seen in the labour market as a result of the

2:19.0

pandemic was a sort of hardening and defaulting towards gender norms, stereotypical gender norms,

2:26.2

which meant that when childcare facilities around the world closed, when schools shut up,

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