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Naomi Schaefer Riley she is an author which to me also means that she is a researcher

because to write well you have to know what you're talking about.

So with that, Naomi, I'm going to ask you some other biograph. In fact, I'll start right now.

You graduated from Harvard with a degree in English and government, is that right?

Yeah, that's correct. All right. And you graduated when I was looking at your bio,

I saw this Latin phrase that I have never seen before not in connection with any of my

friends and I'll probably mispronounce it magna cum laude is that right is that close that's correct. Yeah. What does that mean? I've never seen those three words together in that order before

Well, it means I graduated with some honors, not the highest honors, not the lowest honors, but some honors.

So that means you had good grades? Is that a nice way of putting? Yes, yeah. Okay.

I try not. No wonder I did not recognize that English and government why

those may I love to ask people why they majored in. Why did you pick those two?

I love literature. That's why I picked English. I like writing and I thought it would be a great way to get to read a lot of stuff that I would enjoy.

And government also just an interest of mine.

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