meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
Cato Podcast

How the FBI Crime Lab Promotes and Defends Junk Science

Cato Podcast

Cato Institute

Immigration, News, News Commentary, Peace, 424708, Markets, Government, Libertarian, Policy, Politics, Cato, Defense

4.5979 Ratings

🗓️ 24 February 2022

⏱️ 24 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

The FBI's crime lab is considered one of the very best, but the agency also has a long record of scientific errors that have contributed to false convictions. Radley Balko details the latest scandal.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Thursday, February 24, 2022.

0:06.0

I'm Caleb Brown.

0:07.0

The FBI Crime Lab is considered to be the gold standard for certain elements of criminal

0:11.6

investigations, but that lab has widely distributed some

0:15.2

forms of junk science and trained state-level crime labs in the use of that junk science.

0:20.3

And that's had big implications for criminal trials throughout the US.

0:24.3

Radley Balco discusses his recent peace and the Daily Beast

0:27.7

and how the FBI Crime Lab now looks to help prosecutors get around

0:31.7

questions about the credibility of their evidence.

0:35.6

When the FBI investigates a crime, they use a lot of experts, they use ballistics experts, people who know a lot about cars. I'm thinking back to my cousin

0:47.5

Vinny where the FBI crime lab expert was brought in to give testimony in that movie. So I guess what do we know about the

0:57.4

FBI crime lab and what do we know about the level of expertise, the level of at which it operates?

1:04.3

So you know if you ask the FBI or if you ask most people in forensics they'll say that the

1:09.6

FBI Crime Lab is you know one of the elite crime labs in the world.

1:14.4

Unfortunately, you know, it has had its its share of problems.

1:19.0

Probably one of the most notorious incidents was after the Madrid train bombings when the FBI Crime Lab

1:25.1

matched a partial print found at the scene of the bombings to a an Oregon

1:31.1

attorney named Brandon Mayfield and Mayfield was arrested and his life was kind of turned upside down and turns out he was innocent.

1:37.5

But that's just one case. There have been other scandals that have been far more far reaching, including two areas of

1:47.0

forensics that are going to touch on ballistics, which I take it we're going to talk about in

1:51.2

a minute, but that are related to ballistics.

1:54.7

And there's this field of friends, it's called pattern matching.

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Cato Institute, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Cato Institute and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.