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Behind the Bastards

How The FBI Botched the 2001 Anthrax Scare (Part 1)

Behind the Bastards

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News, Society & Culture, History

4.415.7K Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2025

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Robert goes through the colorful life and backstory of future Trump administration official Steven Hatfill, who went from Rhodesian military volunteer to biological weapons expert to (innocent) suspect of a major terrorist attack.

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0:00.0

Callsor Media

0:02.8

Hey everyone, it's still behind the bastards.

0:08.3

Part two of our episodes on how the FBI and the media created a monster by repeatedly accusing the wrong people of terrorism.

0:19.0

And we're talking, we talked the last episode with our guest

0:21.9

Courtney Kosak about Richard Jewell and the Olympic Park bombing. And in these next two episodes,

0:29.4

we're going to be talking about the 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States. It killed like five

0:35.3

people and freaked the whole country the fuck out.

0:38.7

You know, these happened right in the wake of 9-11. If you're on the younger side of things,

0:43.1

I don't think this is as famous, but basically right after 9-11, a bunch of people, including

0:48.8

guys like Tom Dashel, some like people in government, started receiving letters that had white

0:53.5

powder in them.

0:54.4

Several people got sick and died, mostly folks who were just happened to be in and around,

1:00.1

like the mail rooms and stuff where the letters were being opened.

1:03.6

And they never found who did it.

1:06.9

But they had a suspect for several years.

1:09.8

And that suspect is a guy who is a bastard, I think,

1:14.2

by my standards, but is also, again, not the bad guy of this story. And we're going to spend

1:18.7

this episode talking about his life and times, because again, he's a fascinating person. And I think

1:26.5

there's a lot, like, on his own, we probably could do a bastard's episode.

1:31.1

But the thing he's best known for is being wrongly accused of being the anthrax male guy.

1:38.2

And it just felt like, I don't know, it seems weird to do an episode about how much this guy sucks.

1:42.7

But also, he's fine here.

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