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The Experiment

How The Evangelical Machine Got Made

The Experiment

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🗓️ 13 May 2021

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

These days, everyone assumes that this is just a fact of life: Evangelicals are Republicans, and Republicans are evangelicals. The powerful alliance culminated in the 2016 election of Donald Trump, tying the reputation of Christianity in America to the Trump brand—maybe permanently.

It wasn’t always like this. One man—a political operative from Georgia named Ralph Reed—devised a plan to harness the energy of young Christians and turn them into America’s most powerful voting bloc, one church mailing list at a time. Decades later, when Donald Trump came on the political scene, Reed knew he would be big—and convinced his fellow evangelicals that they should give him a shot.

Trump’s election was everything Reed spent his entire career fighting for: a president who was anti–abortion rights, listened to evangelical leaders, and advocated for Christians who felt pushed out of the public square. But Reed’s victory had a cost. Many, many Christians have come to feel that their church cares more about politics than Jesus. They have spoken out. They have grieved. And some of them have left.

This week on The Experiment, we have the first episode in a two-part series: Meet the man who turned a disparate group of evangelicals into America’s most powerful voting bloc and invented the evangelical political brand. Then join us next week for Part 2, when we’ll look at the human cost of political victory—a cost that might ultimately be very high.

Further reading: “A Christian Insurrection”

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This episode was produced by Katherine Wells and Alvin Melathe, with reporting by Emma Green. Editing by Julia Longoria, Tracie Hunte, and Emily Botein. Fact-check by William Brennan. Sound design by David Herman.

Music by Parish Council (“Looking for Tom Putt,” “Leaving the TV on at Night,” “Mopping”), Ob (“Ere”), Keyboard (“Staying In”), R McCarthy (“Big Game”), H Hunt (“Journeys”), and Infinite Bisous (“Brain”); provided by Tasty Morsels. Additional music by Lorne David Roderick Balfe (“Petrify (b)”). Additional audio from Warner Bros. Pictures, Access Hollywood, C-SPAN, UCLA’s communications-studies department, and The 700 Club.

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0:00.0

I've been thinking a lot about the way that little actions by a single character really

0:10.3

do have the power to change history.

0:12.5

And I think that's this story.

0:16.2

Emma Green is a staff writer at The Atlantic.

0:19.0

I can write about religion and politics mostly, all the uncomfortable stuff.

0:23.2

She recently told me a story about a moment I've never heard of.

0:26.9

But one that turned out to have huge consequences for the country.

0:31.2

Okay, hear me out, hear me out.

0:32.6

So I get that it sounds implausible.

0:36.8

And other people might tell this story differently.

0:40.8

But I think that there is a strong argument to be made that one of the biggest things that's

0:47.0

happened in the last half decade, which is that Donald Trump got elected, that that

0:53.8

happened. That was finalized, that was cinched in the middle of this Tom Hanks movie.

1:00.0

Okay, tell me what happened.

1:02.8

So it happened in October of 2016.

1:07.8

The 2016 election was really neck and neck.

1:12.4

People weren't sure what was going to happen.

1:14.3

Trump had kind of come out of that field.

1:16.2

I don't know.

1:17.2

It was probably about four or five o'clock in the afternoon on a Friday afternoon.

1:21.8

He has to do with this guy named Ralph Reed.

1:24.6

He's a political operative and has kind of become this spokesperson for the Christian

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