How the Epstein Files Are Forcing a Reckoning with Power
The Political Scene | The New Yorker
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🗓️ 26 February 2026
⏱️ 39 minutes
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The New Yorker staff writer Joshua Rothman joins Tyler Foggatt to discuss the political and cultural fallout from the release of millions of documents from the criminal investigation into Jeffrey Epstein. They talk about how years of institutional failures and scandals involving élites have shaped the way the material is being interpreted, why the sheer volume of information is raising more questions than answers, and how the fragmented and often chaotic flow of documents has left many Americans trying to make sense of the story for themselves. They also explore what the reaction to the files reveals about a growing belief that the powerful operate with relative impunity—and about the deepening cynicism toward institutions and powerful élites.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, Josh. |
| 0:07.9 | Hi, Tyler. |
| 0:08.7 | So I want to start by asking why you pick this subject. |
| 0:13.0 | I mean, you write this column every week for the website called Open Questions, where, |
| 0:17.4 | true to the title, you are often posing a question, like just to take a random smattering of headlines from the time that you've done the column, are grown-ups just giant kids? Are you overreacting? Why can't you pack a bag? |
| 0:30.4 | I guess I'm wondering with this most recent column, which is about the Epstein Files and kind of our conspiracy, obsessed, paranoid nation. What question were you trying to |
| 0:39.9 | pose with this column or answer? Yeah, I mean, I think it started with the realization that |
| 0:47.3 | not only was I becoming deeply fascinated by the Epstein story and spending a lot of time looking at the files and actually |
| 0:56.2 | engaging with it as a primary source thing, but also just every single person I know is talking |
| 1:01.7 | about it. Every single parent at my kids' sports events. Everyone is talking about it, and the |
| 1:07.4 | wide range of things that people think is fascinating and alarming and crazy too. |
| 1:12.8 | So you mentioned that, you know, parents at your kids' sporting events are talking about the Epstein |
| 1:17.2 | files. What are they saying? Like, what is like the tenor of those conversations? |
| 1:21.5 | Well, it seems to me like a lot of times there's a spectrum where, like, no one is minimizing |
| 1:27.3 | the scandal. No one is saying, like, it's a nothing burger. like, no one is minimizing the scandal. |
| 1:29.0 | No one is saying, like, it's a nothing burger. |
| 1:30.6 | I think we're all well past that at this point. |
| 1:32.5 | But what you'll find is that there's a sort of epistemically conservative perspective, |
| 1:39.3 | which is sort of like there's a lot of bad stuff that seems to have happened, |
| 1:44.0 | but we don't know what it is. |
| 1:45.5 | And then that goes through a sort of a spectrum. And then on the far end, there's, you know, |
| 1:50.5 | extreme certainty about, you know, cannibalism happened on Epstein's Island. And I've had a lot of |
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