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Diane Rehm: On My Mind

How The Drive For Profits Changed Hospice Care In America

Diane Rehm: On My Mind

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🗓️ 2 December 2022

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Hospice in America has become a big business.

The hospice movement came to the U.S. from England in the 1960s, promising comfort and compassion at the end of life. Today, half of all Americans die in hospice care. But what was once a mission-driven sector run by not-for-profit organizations has become a booming industry – one that some experts say too often prioritizes profit over patients.

In a piece for The New Yorker, ProPublica’s Ava Kofman traces how this transformation happened. She points to lax regulations and a Medicare payment system that is easily exploited by companies looking to make a buck. Diane talked to Kofman about her reporting on rampant fraud, harm to patients, and what can be done about it.

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Diane. On my mind, a big business of hospice.

0:12.2

One investor recently put it at a conference, hospice is the hottest thing going.

0:17.0

The movement came to the US in the late 60s, promising comfort and compassion at the end

0:24.7

of life. Today, half of all Americans die in hospice care, and what was once a sector

0:33.3

run by, not for profit organizations, has become a booming industry, one that some experts

0:42.4

say, who often prioritize his profit over patients. In this week's New Yorker, hope public

0:51.0

goes, Ava costs them traces how this happened. She points to lacks regulations, a Levedicare

0:59.3

payment system that can easily be exploited by companies looking to make a buck.

1:07.0

Ava, you start your piece with a woman named Marsha Farmer. Tell us who she is and why

1:26.4

she's so important to this story about hospice. Marsha Farmer is a very courageous, former

1:36.6

hospice employee who began in the industry in 2002. She was working in a kind of mid-sized

1:45.0

chain in Southern Alabama and had previously done sales and worked, you know, doing

1:51.7

sales in health care. And when she first came to hospice, to her, it kind of appeared

1:56.9

more like a calling than a sales gig. And this is something I heard throughout my reporting.

2:02.3

Former hospice employees say that, you know, there's nothing quite like this kind of work.

2:06.5

You only get into it kind of for the right reasons because it's so intimate. It's so, you

2:11.5

know, unglamerous even compared to the rest of health care. And it's so important. You

2:16.4

have to really believe in this, you know, humane and patient-centered mission to really

2:21.6

want to kind of spend time doing hospice work. And so Marsha was just completely drawn,

2:28.8

being able to, you know, spread the gospel of hospice, so to speak, in her community,

2:33.8

to help more people access this benefit of end-of-life care. And over time, as her company

2:39.9

grew bigger, it got acquired by a large nursing home chain, which was in turn acquired by

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