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Four minutes after 10 is the time. Do you, can I take a moment? Just to mark the passing of

John Not. I know I opened yesterday's show with a bit of a riddle Just to mark the passing of John Not.

I know I opened yesterday's show with a bit of a riddle.

What were the three words that we opened with yesterday?

Mate List, Marks and Dixville.

Careful, Keith.

I've got a riddle for, well, it's not a riddle this morning.

But do you know why John Not, the former defense secretary who has just passed away,

very much a bastion of a form of conservatism that younger listeners have never experienced in their lives?

Do you know why he is strangely relevant to the political landscape in America? I don just occurred to me. So, you know, I always find myself worrying when these thoughts pop into my head before the news,

just as the news bulletin comes to an end that I'm about to embarrass myself live on air.

I think that's probably why you tune in, isn't it, in the hope that I do.

But John Not is part of the story of Rupert Murdoch's corruption of the body politic on both sides of the Atlantic.

It was in 1981 that Rupert Murdoch met with Margaret Thatcher at Chequers.

They had a Sunday lunch together at Chequers.

She was trailing in the polls.

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