Welcome to Kurt Affairs. My name is Nathan Robinson. I am the editor-chief of

Curd Affairs Magazine. It is my great pleasure and privilege to welcome to the program,

John Fuglesing. He is an actor, comedian, writer, TV host, radio host, political commentator, author of the new book,

his first separation of church and hate, a sane person's guide to taking back the Bible

from fundamentalists, fascists, and flock fleecing frauds, which is fun to say.

I love when a radio host has the guts to read the second part of that title, by the way.

A lot of hosts don't have the guts to take it on.

Thank you, Nathan.

Much respect.

I got it in take one.

His bio on the back of the book says

is one of the the weirder bios that you'll read

John Fuglesack has been murdered on CSI

picketed by the Westboro Baptist Church

he has gotten George Harrison to give his final performance

on VH1 and debated Jerry Falwell and David Duke

did you really debate Jerry Falwell?

That's crazy. I did. Yes, sir. On Bill Marsh Show, yeah, when I was very young.

Well, now you've given the kind of ultimate response to that brand of Christianity. And so I wanted to start here. The first thing I want to do

is I just want to read this little thing you've got in the intro here where you say, Jesus was a peaceful,

radically nonviolent revolutionary who was an American, never spoke English, who hung around

lepers, hookers, and crooks, never spoke English, who hung around lepers,

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