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How The Bechdel Test Changed This Woman's Career

Nerdette

WBEZ

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4.71.4K Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2020

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

The Bechdel test asks a simple question: Does a work of fiction have two named female characters who talk to each other about something other than a man?

Today we talk with Sarah Kozloff, who was a film professor at Vassar College when she learned that The Lord of The Rings movies fail the Bechdel test. That inspired her to write The Nine Realms, a series of fantasy novels about a young princess who must grow up and fight her way back to the throne.

Greta talks with Sarah about the books, her career change and why she released all four novels in the same year.

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From W.B. E. E. Chicago, this is Nurdett. I'm Greta Johnson and today

0:21.0

I am thrilled to introduce you to a series of books that I think

0:25.2

is better than the Game of Thrones books. I'm going to tell you why but first I just

0:29.4

want to say no shade to George R. Martin he is is a lovely human. We had him on

0:34.1

Nurdett. He was very kind. I liked him a lot. George, this is

0:37.2

nothing personal. But here are my criteria. One, this other series is

0:41.6

feminist as fier, and two, it's actually finished.

0:49.0

Yep, it's four books.

0:50.3

They're all out in the world.

0:52.0

And the series is called the Nine nine realm series and it's by Sarah

0:54.9

Kausloff and here is Sarah summing up 2,000 pages in one sentence.

1:01.1

An epic fantasy about a young princess who must grow up and fight her way back to the throne.

1:17.5

That, my friend, is a sentence that gives me goosebumps. And what's extra awesomely cool about Sarah is that her own story is super interesting too.

1:23.2

She's somebody who completely changed career paths

1:26.6

pretty much because of the Bechtel test.

1:28.8

She used to be a film professor at Vassar College,

1:32.2

and now she is a full-time fantasy author.

1:35.3

Sarah, welcome to Nurdette.

1:37.3

Thanks for having me, Greta.

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