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The New Yorker Radio Hour

How “The Apprentice” Made Donald Trump, and a Boondoggle in Wisconsin

The New Yorker Radio Hour

WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

Politics, Arts, News, Wnyc, Books, David, Storytelling, Society & Culture, Yorker, New, Remnick

4.26.2K Ratings

🗓️ 11 January 2019

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

The staff writer Patrick Radden Keefe has reported on “The Apprentice” and its impact on Donald Trump—on how America saw Trump, and how Trump saw himself. Keefe spoke with Jonathon Braun, who was a supervising producer on “The Apprentice,” about how the show’s team reshaped Trump’s image, and how the news media are doing that same work for him now that he is President. Dan Kaufman, the author of “The Fall of Wisconsin,” explains how a deal to bring manufacturing jobs to an industrial town in Wisconsin became a boondoggle of national proportions. And Terrance Hayes, the author of “American Sonnets for My Past and Future Assassin,” reads a poem for the New Year.

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These are just anecdotes, but it's building up into something more coherent.

0:09.0

And I think it's interesting to really try to unravel what his ties.

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There's this sort of country city divide for their own convenient, and then it's not clear where it goes next.

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From One World Trade Center in Manhattan, this is the New Yorker Radio Hour,

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a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker.

0:31.6

American Sonnet for the New Year, Terence Hayes.

0:36.6

Things got terribly ugly, incredibly quickly.

0:41.7

Things got ugly, embarrassingly quickly, actually.

0:46.8

Things got ugly unbelievably quickly, honestly.

0:51.2

Things got ugly seemingly and frequently, initially. Things got ugly seemingly infrequently initially things got ugly ironically usually awfully carefully

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carefully things got ugly unsuccessfully occasionally things got ugly mostly painstakingly

1:09.7

quietly seemingly things got ugly mostly painstakingly, quietly, seemingly.

1:12.5

Things got ugly beautifully infrequently.

1:17.0

Things got ugly sadly, especially frequently, unfortunately.

1:23.1

Things got ugly increasingly, obviously.

1:27.2

Things got ugly suddenly, embarrassingly, forcefully.

1:32.2

Things got really ugly regularly, truly quickly.

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Things got really incredibly ugly.

1:41.3

Things will get less ugly, inevitably, hopefully.

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You're listening to The New Yorker Radio Hour.

1:52.0

I'm David Remnick.

1:53.9

Terence Hayes is a winner of the National Book Award in Poetry,

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