I'm Alan Olava and this is Clear In Vivid, conversations about connecting and communicating.

About ten years ago it seemed to me we could help scientists communicate about their work

in a way that was more clear in vivid.

And if it worked, it could help science thrive and it could help our country thrive.

And so I helped start the all the center for communicating science at Stony Brook University.

It turned out that the tools we were using to get to clear in vivid, like improvisation,

were working so well that before long we were also using the help doctors communicate

with their patients and with one another.

There's a growing need for better communication in medicine.

Sometimes for reasons that I've found surprising.

So I thought the best way to explore that in this episode, the last of our three part

series on communication in medicine, was to talk with Laura Lindinfeld, the director

of the Alde Center, and Shushmeta Patti, the head of our medical division.

There's probably no more important moment in our lives for relating and communicating.

In those few minutes we spend in a doctor's office.

Here's my conversation with Laura and Shushmeta on that critical moment.

This is great because today we have two doctors with us and two completely different kinds

of doctors.

Shushmeta, European pediatrician, right?

And Laura, you're a whole other kind of doctor.

What kind of doctor are you?

I'm a doctor of philosophy.

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