How the AI Oligarchy Went Hyperscale (with Tim Murphy)
Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer
Civic Ventures
4.7 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 12 May 2026
⏱️ 39 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | The rising inequality and growing political instability that we see today are the direct result of decades of bad economic theory. |
| 0:10.6 | The last five decades of trickle-down economics haven't worked. |
| 0:14.7 | But what's the alternative? |
| 0:16.3 | Middle-out economics is the answer. |
| 0:18.6 | Because the middle class is the source of growth, not its consequence. |
| 0:23.2 | That's right. |
| 0:28.7 | This is pitchfork economics with Nick Hanauer, a podcast about how to build the economy from the middle out. |
| 0:36.9 | Welcome to the show. |
| 0:44.4 | Where are you, Nick? You're in Seattle with me, right? |
| 0:47.1 | I am, Seattle, Washington, USA. |
| 0:49.2 | And it's a lovely spring day, atypical for Seattle, not a cloud in the sky. |
| 0:55.5 | Yeah, exactly. |
| 0:56.6 | And today we're going to talk about clouds. |
| 0:59.1 | And, you know, cloud is such a harmless sounding thing, isn't it? |
| 1:03.7 | It's light, it's airy. |
| 1:05.7 | Yeah, it's like it's not there, except actual clouds are real. |
| 1:10.1 | Like, you know, they're filled with water vapor. |
| 1:15.2 | Yeah. |
| 1:16.0 | And sometimes... |
| 1:17.3 | Clouds are good for the world. |
| 1:19.0 | That's right. |
| 1:19.8 | What would we do without clouds? |
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