I kept seeing these other names coming to the surface, like Bob Feller, Larry Dobie, Satchel Paige,

and I was noticing how these men were sort of complimenting each other and were in tension

with each other in extremely interesting ways.

And I thought that you could tell sort of an alternate story of the integration of Major League

Baseball through these four people, because these people, these two white, two black men, each

sort of represented a different facet of the integration experience.

Welcome to the Edge of Sports podcast. I'm Dave Ziren. This week we are talking to the Edge of Sports podcast.

I'm Dave Ziron.

This week we are talking to the author of the new book, Our Team, the epic story of four men and the World Series that changed baseball by Luke Eppelin.

So excited to talk to Luke Eppelin today.

Also, I've got some choice words about athletes willing to step on

the third rail of the intersection of sports and politics and criticize what Israel is currently

doing to the neighborhood of Sheikh Jara as well as Gaza. I'm very excited to relay some of this

information to you because it actually has the whiff of hope.

I've got the Just Stand Up Award, talking about athletes who are going to defy the infamous Rule 50 at the Olympics,

and to just sit your ass down award for people who would dare, dare, dare, dare, question the greatness of Brody himself, Russell Westbrook. But first, let's go to

Luke Eppelin. The book, Our Team, the epic story of four men in the World Series that

changed baseball. I've got so many questions. I want to ask you about this. But first and

foremost, you know, you can write about anything in the worldwide, in the wide world of sports.

So what drew you to this story? Actually, it was a circuitous route to it. I'm from a small town

in Illinois near St. Louis. I grew up a diehard Cardinal fan with very little knowledge of the Cleveland Indians.

But my grandfather was a diehard St. Louis Browns fan.

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