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You're listening to The Portrait System podcast. All workshops now, I need to have diverse bodies, like bodies so that people can just see that it's possible because if we as photographers cannot see that it is possible for diverse bodies to be photographed,

then how the hell are they going to see it?

Welcome to the Portrait System podcast.

I'm your host, Nikki Klosser, and this show is here to help you succeed in the world

of photography and business to help you learn to become financially free doing what you love

and so much more.

With over one million downloads, countless photographers have taken what they've learned from both

our episodes and from the Portraitresystem.com, and they have grown their businesses, quit their day jobs, and are designing a life of their dreams. We keep it real and share stories about the ups and downs that come with running a photography business. You'll hear real life stories of how other photographers run their business and you'll learn actionable steps that you can take to reach your

own goals. Thank you so much for being here and let's get started. Today's guest is Terry

Hofford and she is quite an amazing human being. Terry is a photographer, an author, a speaker, coach,

activist and a body image expert. While she started out as a photographer, she found that she was

incredibly drawn to educating creatives about body image and making sure that all body types are

inclusive within the photography industry. Terry and I had a personal chat about her life experiences

and how she incorporated her passion into her brand and also how she markets our services and her education

with her photography. Okay, without further ado, here is Terry Hofford. Hi, Terry. Welcome to the

portrait system. How are you? I'm good. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Yeah, of course, of course.

So I learned about you from Sue. Sue follows you and just loves what you do with body image and just your work in general. And so it's just a real honor to have you on. Oh, thank you. Yeah, I was very excited when I saw that she liked my stuff. So that's always a huge honor.

Very cool. So okay, so you're a photographer but that is not

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