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Apple News In Conversation

How tech is transforming parenthood (for better or worse)

Apple News In Conversation

Apple News

News, News Commentary

4.21.8K Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

New York Times critic Amanda Hess has spent years writing about the internet, technology, and culture. But when she became pregnant, and then a new parent, she was surprised by how much tech infiltrated — and tried to optimize — every aspect of her life. In her book Second Life: Having a Child in the Digital Age, Hess chronicles that experience. She sat down with Apple News In Conversation host Shumita Basu to talk about the promises and pitfalls of parenting technology, and the tools that actually helped her family.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is In Conversation from Apple News. I'm Shemitabasu. Today, navigating parenting in the digital age.

0:25.9

Amanda Hess was pregnant with her first child when she went to her seven-month ultrasound appointment.

0:30.8

And during the exam, the ultrasound tech noticed something unusual on the screen.

0:34.2

My son was sticking his tongue out, which I thought was so cute.

0:35.1

And it is cute. But if it's happening persistently on an ultrasound,

0:38.0

it can be a sign of a genetic condition.

0:40.9

In the moment, Amanda didn't know anything

0:42.8

except that the technician looked concerned

0:44.7

and left the room for what seemed like in eternity.

0:47.9

And laying there on the exam table,

0:49.9

Amanda had just one wish.

0:52.0

My feeling wasn't like,

0:53.3

I wish my husband could be here. My feeling was't like, I wish my husband could be here.

0:55.0

My feeling was, I wish I had my phone right now.

0:58.0

I wish I had my phone in my hand so I could Google tongue sticking out ultrasound and understand what is happening.

1:06.2

It took weeks for Amanda and her husband to get a diagnosis, Beckwith-Weedman syndrome, a growth disorder

1:11.9

that affects about one out of every 15,000 births. In that period, while waiting for the diagnosis

1:17.7

and figuring out what this might mean for the future of her baby, Amanda turned again and again

1:22.8

to the internet. And even though Amanda is a culture critic at the New York Times, who's been

1:27.4

writing about the internet for years, she found it difficult to disentangle herself from everything she was reading.

1:33.9

I think I was a little bit naive about how sucked in I would get.

1:40.1

I'm really used to just like dipping into some online community and trying to figure it out, writing about it, and then setting it down and moving on to the next thing.

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