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How Taylor Swift Won: A Farewell to the Taylor's Versions Era

Rolling Stone All Access

Rolling Stone

Music Commentary, Music, Music Interviews

4.01.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Taylor Swift got her masters back — we break down her strategic victory, the best vault tracks, speculation about her next album, her revelations about Reputation and her debut, and much more, with Brittany Spanos and Rob Sheffield joining host Brian Hiatt Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Brian Hyatt. This is Rolling Stone Music Now. I have with me, Brittany Spanos and Rob Sheffield,

0:07.2

and we are here to talk about a major music news story that broke on Friday, something that

0:12.4

maybe people thought would never come. But Taylor Swift bought back her master's. She has her

0:17.8

albums back. You don't have to listen to the Tellers versions, versions of songs anymore if you don't want to. We're going to talk about what this means and how

0:25.9

it happened. Brittany, do you want to read Teller's letters? All of it in that tiny print? It was so

0:30.6

hard to read. What actually happened with me is I tried to get AI to transcribe it, which, by the way,

0:35.7

AI is extremely good at transcribing just

0:37.8

like an Instagram post that's in normal type. But in this particular case, this is how I learned

0:43.7

that neither chat GPT nor Claude can read cursive. And what chat GPT did is it transcribed maybe

0:49.9

a quarter of it and made up the rest very convincingly. It's the point where you had to look closely like, wait, she didn't say that about, it was,

0:56.5

it was terrible.

0:57.4

That's so great.

0:58.6

It was a horrifying.

1:00.1

Share that robot Taylor announcement version.

1:03.0

It was like, I'm going to make some improvements to this.

1:05.8

I'm not feeling this.

1:06.7

Brittany, I've dropped it into chat.

1:08.1

I got it.

1:08.6

Hi.

1:09.2

I'm trying to gather.

1:10.8

Hi, Taylor.

1:12.4

I'm trying to gather my thoughts into something coherent, but right now my mind is just a

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