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The Brian Lehrer Show

How Taylor Swift's Music Has Helped People Through Hard Times

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

Politics, News, News Commentary, Wnyc, Radio, Npr, Arts, New, Lerer, Media, Bryan, Nyc, Daily News, York, Public

4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2023

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

A psychiatrist wrote in The New York Times that her (mostly young, female) patients saw Taylor Swift as a big sister who helped them through the tough parts of life. Listeners call in to talk about whether the star's music has ever helped them (or someone they know) through hard times.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Brian Lear on WNYC and for the end of the show and the end of this week, something very

0:14.2

different from public banking. We're coming with one more round of open phones for Taylor

0:21.0

Swift fans, part two of two. So why Taylor Swift again? Well, yesterday if you were listening

0:26.8

around this time, we discussed her impact on the music industry. And today we'll ask what

0:32.2

impact does her music have on you in your emotional or psychological life?

0:37.9

Text or call us now at 212433 WNYC 2124339692. Most of you are asking how her songs have

0:48.2

helped you through tough times. Text or call 212433WNYC. And here's the inspiration. Maybe

0:55.9

some of you saw the op-ed in the New York Times. Psychiatrists Suzanne Garfinkel Crowell wrote

1:02.2

that so many of the young women and adolescent girls in her practice were bringing in specific

1:06.6

Taylor Swift references that she joked that half her practice was now Taylor Swift based.

1:12.5

A key paragraph in that article went like this. When I was growing up she wrote, I had the

1:17.7

end-of-go girls, Tori Amos and Andy DeFranco, singers for whom the troubled inside matched

1:23.5

a raw edgy outside. But there was nobody who held forth on righteous anger from the inside

1:29.8

of a sparkly bodysuit who suffered as I did but whose confident prowl could make me walk

1:36.1

a bit taller. She continues, my singers would sit outside the party and complain with you.

1:43.4

But when you got your courage up, they weren't going to go inside ready for it. Miss Swift

1:48.6

doesn't force you to choose because she is both the lucky one you want to be and every

1:53.2

bit the anti-hero that you are inside. So that from that article in the Times and apparently

1:59.8

whatever you're upset about, the poet laureate of this generation has got a song somewhere

2:06.2

in her mega-urve describing that precise feeling. She's not going to solve whatever problem

2:12.1

you're having maybe, but she's going to sit with you in it until the passage of time

2:16.7

does it work? Does it work? Or maybe help you solve it. So listeners, there's the question.

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