How Sweden stood firm: Anders Tegnell looks back on lockdown
Planet Normal
Louisa Wells
4.7 • 2.9K Ratings
🗓️ 23 March 2023
⏱️ 69 minutes
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Summary
In the first of this two-part lockdown retrospective, your co-pilots look back at the events of March 2020, that unexpectedly led to them being at the helm of a ‘covid podcast’.
Both are in no doubt that the pandemic has changed them. Allison feels she has lost a trust in authority as a result, whilst Liam feels he’s become steelier at arguing his opinion, after speaking out against mainstream thought.
Also joining our co-pilots on this very special voyage is Anders Tegnell the State Epidemiologist for Sweden during the pandemic. Hailed as a ‘pandemic hero’ Anders shares his observations from Sweden’s vastly different approach in comparison to the UK and the rest of the world.
And our co-pilots delve deep into the mailbag to look back on some of the listeners' own contemplations from the Covid-19 lockdown.
A special thank you to Linköping University for recording our interview with Anders Tegnell.
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| 0:37.0 | Five. |
| 0:38.0 | Management in a crisis should be the same as the management in peacetime. |
| 0:42.0 | And that's very clear in this which is the one we kept on doing that. |
| 0:47.0 | I do feel I'm afraid and I think it's unalteredly true now that lockdown killed more people than it saved. |
| 0:55.0 | We learn quite soon that it's quite easy to start having different restrictions but it's very difficult to stop having them. |
| 1:04.0 | We were accused of misinformation by the misinformation specialists. |
| 1:17.0 | Welcome once again to Planet Normal, the Telugu- |
| 1:20.5 | Hello. |
| 1:22.5 | And me Liam Halligan. |
| 1:24.5 | On the 23rd of March 2020, exactly three years ago, then Prime Minister Boris Johnson told the British people to stay at home. |
| 1:32.5 | Two days later the Coronavirus Act was passed by Parliament, giving the government unprecedented powers of control. |
| 1:39.5 | At first it was a novelty some time off as the nation barced in the unusually warm spring sunshine. |
| 1:46.5 | But pretty soon it was clear that three weeks to squash the sombrero was to coin a phrase, old hat. |
| 1:52.5 | Johnson himself succumbed to Covid, admitted to hospital in early April 2020. |
| 1:57.5 | News the Prime Minister was in intensive care, his life in genuine danger shocked the nation while weakening Johnson's resolve. |
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