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Chasing Life

How Surgeons Balance Hope with Honesty

Chasing Life

CNN

Nutrition, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.47.8K Ratings

🗓️ 4 July 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Every day, in hospitals across the country, surgeons make countless life-or-death decisions. For those who operate on children, those stakes can feel even higher. Dr. David Sandberg, author of “Brain and Heart: The Triumphs and Struggles of a Pediatric Neurosurgeon,” sits down with Sanjay, a fellow neurosurgeon, to swap stories from the operating room and give a glimpse into how surgeons think under pressure.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Chasing Life. Today I like to start with a quick story, a very personal one for me.

0:08.3

It was Christmas Eve 1993 in Ann Arbor, Michigan, snowy night. It was my first year out of medical school.

0:16.1

I was an intern in the surgery department there at Michigan. And that night I happened to be taken care of a

0:22.4

very sick elderly gentleman who had started to develop some fluid in his chest. I was doing a

0:28.9

procedure known as a thoracentesis. You basically put a needle into the chest to try and drain the fluid.

0:36.4

It's a commonly done procedure and relatively simple,

0:40.1

if you know what you're doing. And frankly, by that point in my training, I was sort of a pro

0:45.3

at thoracentesis. I knew how to do it, just by the book. But for whatever reason, something

0:53.1

went wrong that night.

0:55.3

There was bleeding, and the patient had to be rushed off to the operating room.

0:59.7

Again, this is Christmas Eve.

1:01.5

I had already been in the hospital for a full day, full night, and now another full day.

1:07.5

But I couldn't allow myself to leave.

1:09.8

I needed to see what would happen to this man.

1:13.2

Well, he came back from the operating room

1:15.0

and then developed something known as coagulopathy.

1:18.7

That means his blood would not clot.

1:21.0

Sometimes that can happen when you have a lot of bleeding.

1:23.7

It can be this really vicious cycle.

1:26.3

And it was for him, because a day later, he died.

1:34.2

Now I'm telling you this because 32 years later in my life,

1:39.7

if you look up in the top right drawer of my desk in my office,

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