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Hi and welcome to Spycast from the Secret Files of the International Spy Museum in Washington, D.C.

I'm Dr. Andrew Hammond, the Museum's Historian and Curator.

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Welcome to this week's edition of Spycast.

This week we're looking at how spies think and we're doing so with Sir David O'Mand.

So I'm really pleased that I got the opportunity to speak to David because a professor at my graduate

school said that he was the smartest person whom he had ever met and he had met a lot of smart people.

He done his PhD at Cambridge. Another endorsement for Sir David comes from

Roderick Braithwaite.

Sir Roderick was the last British ambassador to the former Soviet Union.

And he said that there is no one more qualified to speak about British intelligence

than David O'Mand.

In 1969 I graduated from Cambridge University.

I decided not to pursue an academic career with getting a doctorate.

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