Hi everyone and welcome back to that UFO podcast. Today I'm honoured to be joined by my guest Dr. Christian Peters.

He is the managing director of the Bremen International Graduate School of Social Sciences at the University of Bremen.

With a PhD in political science and more than a decade steering one of Europe's leading doctoral programs,

Christian brings deep insight into the academic policy and research nexus.

In addition to his leadership in advancing doctoral education,

he engages across topics from religion and politics to higher education strategy.

That includes the social, scientific fringe of anomalous phenomena.

I've been fortunate to hear Dr. Peters speak twice this year, once at the Sol Symposium, and earlier in the year at the University of Durham, at their symposium called

grounding the SETI and UAP debate.

Now, you might be wondering why someone in Christian's position,

leading an international graduate school and working at the crossroads of politics, society and scientific research is such an important voice in the conversation around anomalies in UEP.

The truth is, this subject isn't just about sightings or technology, it sits right inside the bigger questions of how societies respond to uncertainty, how institutions

adapt to new information, and how we make sense of the unknown. Christian's background and

political culture, epistemology and research systems gives them a rare vantage point on all of

that. So what you're about here isn't just another UAP discussion. It's a deeper look at how academia, policy and society,

and society grapple with emerging disruptive topics.

And trust me, it's a perspective we don't get often enough,

but I think the shifting landscape affords us more people like Dr. Peters speaking up.

For me on this one, folks, I had a format. It goes almost two

hours and the format went completely out the window and the conversation goes all over. I think in the

best possible way, I really hope you enjoy it. And I can tell you now, Dr. Peters will be back on the

podcast with me really soon because we only scratch to surface in terms of conversation.

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