You're going to do. We're back with another edition of The Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Emily Dushensky

editor here at The Federalist. As always, you can email the show editor here at the Federalist.com.

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com as well. Today we are joined once again by Bill Donahue.

He is now the author of the new book Cultural Meltdown,

the secular roots of our moral crisis.

He's the author, not just of this book,

but of other books, and is the president and CEO,

the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights.

He has a PhD in sociology from NYU and I think you've written

Bill you can tell us about this but ten other books ten other books so this is

the yes yeah this is number 11. You're right Emily. Thank you very much.

Oh my goodness. Well, congratulations on the new book and thanks for coming back on the show.

Thank you for having me. So when you talk about, I'll just zero in on the subhead here of your book, the secular roots of our moral crisis.

Can you talk to us, Bill, a little bit about what you mean when you say the secular roots?

A lot of people might say, you know, the roots are, let's say, you know, different kinds of religions that have crept in secular religions or you know full

religious let's say people would say militant Islam you know as contributed to the

crisis of the West and all of that, but you say the secular roots. Can you talk to us a little bit about what that means?

Right, I mean, basically what I'm arguing in the book is that there are two irreconcilable visions of

society and of the human condition. On the one hand you have the Janaio

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