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The Quanta Podcast

How Smell Guides Our Inner World

The Quanta Podcast

Quanta Magazine

Life Sciences, Science, Physics

4.7 β€’ 638 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 5 August 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

When some people smell the molecule benzyl acetate, they identify a distinctly banana-y scent. But when others sniff the same compound, they get hints of nail polish remover. How can this be? Smell is a tricky sensory process to pin down. Our perception of scents is wide-ranging and often depends on lived experience. But researchers are building a deeper understanding of the processes underlying our noses’ elusive machinery.Β 

In this episode, host Samir Patel and 𝘘𝘢𝘒𝘯𝘡𝘒 biology staff writer Yasemin Saplakoglu explore the invisible sense that shapes our reality, from nostalgic childhood fragrances β€” lavender, old books β€” to familiar irksome odors β€” skunks, garbage. This topic was covered in a recent story for 𝘘𝘢𝘒𝘯𝘡𝘒 π˜”π˜’π˜¨π˜’π˜»π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦.

Each week on π˜›π˜©π˜¦ 𝘘𝘢𝘒𝘯𝘡𝘒 π˜—π˜°π˜₯𝘀𝘒𝘴𝘡, 𝘘𝘢𝘒𝘯𝘡𝘒 π˜”π˜’π˜¨π˜’π˜»π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦 editor in chief Samir Patel speaks with the people behind the award-winning publication to navigate through some of the most important and mind-expanding questions in science and math.

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0:00.0

How would you describe the smell of a freshly moan lawn?

0:07.2

Grassy, right? Or like a freshly moan lawn? In most cases, in English at least, we refer to smells

0:14.6

as like the things that make them, rose or vanilla or garbage. But in the language spoken by the Jaha'i people who live around the

0:22.8

border between Malaysia and Thailand, there are abstract words for categories of smells, like one that

0:29.9

generally refers to the smell of ripe fruit and flowers, or another one that encompasses wild mango

0:35.7

and smoke in the caves that bats live in, it's like being

0:39.3

able to describe a family of smells the way we might say red or loud in English.

0:46.1

Smell is an important sense and an ancient one, and it's deeply tied with memory, but we

0:51.1

don't particularly have a good language for it.

1:01.6

Welcome to the Quanta podcast where we explore the frontiers of science and math.

1:04.4

I'm Samir Patel, editor-in-chief of Quantum Magazine.

1:10.7

It seems like science had long overlooked the sense of smell because it didn't seem important to human survival or

1:12.3

it was hard to describe or the molecular sources of it are hard to study.

1:16.8

But there are a number of efforts afoot today to bring some order to the world of smell

1:21.9

and understand how the sense works at a neurological level.

1:25.9

Quanta staff writer Yasmin Saplakolu recently reported on the latest

1:29.3

in this field in a piece titled How Smell Guides Our Inner World, and she's here with us to talk it

1:35.9

through. Welcome back, Yasmin. Hi, thanks for having me back. So what's the big idea of the story?

1:42.4

The big idea is figuring out different ways

1:44.9

to understand something like smell that is so abstract

1:48.6

and so intangible and how scientists are finding

1:52.4

creative ways to understand it better and to figure out

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