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🗓️ 2 June 2025
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The happiness of young people has taken a big hit since the advent of the smartphone - and social psychologist Jonathan Haidt argues that there is a direct link. He warns that allowing children easy access to the internet and social media adversely impacts their sleep, their self-esteem and even how their brains develop.
Jonathan explains the dangers he sees in letting kids use smartphones, while Jill Murphy of Common Sense Media suggests ways parents can navigate introducing tech into children's lives.
This series on parenting coincides with Dr Laurie's new free online class, The Science of Wellbeing for Parents which is available now at Coursera.org. You can sign up at drlauriesantos.com/parents.
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0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
0:14.7 | Do you remember when you got your first cell phone? |
0:19.5 | I do. |
0:20.4 | It was the late 90s, and I was a grad student back in Boston. |
0:24.4 | All my friends were starting to get mobile phones, so I wanted one too. |
0:28.4 | I remember sitting outside in Harvard Square and finally unboxing my new Nokia. |
0:33.4 | And it felt really cool, futuristic even. |
0:37.1 | I could call my mom while walking to work, and I could text my friends. |
0:41.5 | That new Nokia made it easy to travel and to find people while you were out in the world. |
0:46.8 | Granted, it didn't have email or maps or music or a camera or even a calculator, I think, |
0:52.5 | but it was still a game changer. |
0:55.0 | Even today, I remember that first ringtone, very fondly. |
1:01.4 | But if I were to show one of my Yale students that Nokia today, |
1:05.3 | they'd probably be very confused. |
1:08.1 | It's easy to forget just how much and how quickly mobile phones have transformed |
1:12.4 | and how they've transformed us. Today's young people can't comprehend what life was like without |
1:18.6 | infinite access to information and more streaming content than anyone could possibly consume. |
1:24.1 | So for this final episode in our series on happier parenting, we're going to |
1:27.9 | turn to how this massive technological shift has affected our children and what caregivers can do |
1:33.4 | to offer guidance and support amidst this avalanche of information overload. And for this episode, |
1:39.2 | I knew there was one expert I had to speak with. In 2010, kids mostly have flip phones. We call them millennials. But by |
1:45.8 | 2015, kids have smartphones with social media. They can be on for 10, 15 hours a day, and we |
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