How Should We Respond to the Vaccine Hesitant? With Dr. Jay Baruch

Let's Find Common Ground

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🗓️ 14 October 2021

⏱️ 27 minutes

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As an ER doctor, Jay Baruch has been treating Covid patients since the start of the pandemic. He still sees many patients sick with Covid in his ER - the vast majority unvaccinated. It might seem reasonable for him to share the anger and frustration that many vaccinated Americans feel about the unvaxxed. While Jay wants everyone who is eligible to get the shot, he says judgment does nothing to persuade the hesitant to get the vaccine, and that there is a better way to respond. Jay is a Professor of Emergency Medicine at Brown University’s Alpert Medical School. He is also a writer. In this episode he discusses his desire for a more open dialogue about vaccination, one that involves listening to people’s stories, empathizing with their concerns, and recognizing that all human beings are complicated.

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0:00.0	If you've had the shots against COVID-19, how do you feel about people who didn't get the vaccine?
0:07.7	If you're holding off, what's your view of those who are telling you to get it?
0:12.8	It's the subject of fierce debate as COVID-19 continues to rage in the US.
0:18.3	Many people who've had the vaccine are angry and frustrated, berating the unvaxed as selfish,
0:24.1	stupid, or both. But our guest on this show says there is a better way.
0:34.5	This is Let's Find Common Ground. I'm Ashley Melntite.
0:38.8	And I'm Richard Davies. Dr. J. Baruch has worked with COVID patients throughout the pandemic.
0:45.9	He's an ER doctor and professor of emergency medicine at Brown University's Alpert Medical School
0:52.5	in Providence, Rhode Island. He's also a writer. Recently he wrote a piece for STAT,
0:57.6	a new site about health, medicine, and the life sciences that went viral.
1:03.5	J. would love everyone who can be, to be vaccinated, but he says there ought to be more empathy
1:09.7	for those who haven't been. J. Baruch, welcome to Let's Find Common Ground.
1:15.7	Thank you very much. It's a really honor to be here.
1:18.3	So, J. you are an ER doctor and I think a lot of people would at least expect you to roll your
1:25.0	eyes when you encounter unvaccinated patients in the ER with COVID. How do you actually feel when
1:32.4	you meet these patients? Well, I think that inclination to eye roll is something that I wish I was
1:41.0	a better person to say. I'm resisting. I have the urge to roll the eyes, but I also
1:47.7	have learned in my, in your doctor going on 28 years now, and what I have discovered actually is
1:56.0	that oftentimes we come in with certain opinions and certain biases and certain judgments,
2:02.5	and when you talk to the patients, which is really just a person struggling, you sort of understand
2:08.6	like where they're coming from. I often felt that people's reasoning were very complicated
2:14.6	and very complex, and oftentimes very justified from their perspective. And so,
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