Everybody that has interaction with anybody in the church needs to know how to sit with somebody else in pain.

I am not going to have all the answers, but I can listen to you.

All of us have been called to be a friend.

Well, we have our friend Shanti Felton.

I am so happy.

Why do I just smile when Shanty's in the room with me?

I don't know.

You've been talking about this for a month.

That's the way I feel about you guys.

Oh, what else are you going to say right now, Shanty?

You sort of have to.

We do love you, Shanty, because not only are you a good friend, but you have really impacted us with all of your work. You're so kind. And you have someone with you today. I do. I do. One of my favorite people in the world, but I'll let you guys introduce Jim. Well, we don't know as much about Jim as you do. Okay. Jim sells is with us, and we just heard he's like a, you know, he's on the... He's a big deal. He's a big deal. He's like a you know he's on the big deal.

He's a big deal. He's on Mount Rushmore. I know a lot of people money.

So that's why they keep in relationship with me. Well, I don't want you to tell us how big a deal you are.

Sean, you tell us. Yeah. So when we, which I know we'll explain when we started talking about writing this

book together, I was like, oh my gosh, is Dr. Jim Sells wanting to write a book with me?

Like, I was like fan girling.

Did he reach out to you?

We had been working on this project, which we'll be explaining in a minute.

We've been working on this project. He was like, explaining in a minute. We've been working on this

project. He's like, I think that there's an important book here for the, for the Christian audience. And he's like, how would you like to like maybe work on that together? I'm like, are you kidding? So, because Jim, Dr. Sells, sorry. You know, you know. Oh, we got to call him, doctor? No, we don't need to call them.

I just require my adult got to call him doctor? No, we don't.

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