Hello and welcome to Not Another One with me, Steve Richards, Miranda Green, Tim Montgomery and Ian Martin.

Thank you very much for tuning in wherever you are. And we've got a lot to cram in

today. We're going to have a look at the latest in the United States. I think we'll be doing that

for the next four years, actually. And combine that with looking at Stama's foreign policy. Is it

right even to talk about him having a foreign policy?

How will he deal with Trump if they win in the light of the row this week,

with Labour Party sending people out to help Kamala Harris?

And meanwhile, Stama claiming still to have had a very successful meeting with Trump quite recently.

Anyway, there's all of that to explore.

Then take a cup of coffee, listen to the break, and then we will be back looking at the whole issue of prisons, whether prison works, the politics of releasing prisoners early, the perhaps inevitability of that.

We have got tons to get through.

And if you notice, it's out on a Thursday.

So please subscribe so you get it because it's the only time we could all make it this week.

It will be Friday next week.

No, what will it be next week?

It'll be Friday as normal post-budget. It would be our post-budget verdict. The budget is looming. It's next week. But we don't want to talk about that today, are we? We're sort of getting that one a message. No, but we are going to do a bonus weekend episode again, aren't we? was, it's, yeah, and it's going to be meaty and fun and I will speak about that at the end.

But I've got a complaint to begin with those, Steve. Oh, God. Not another one. We can't do any other business already, Tim. Well, how. This is one of our quickest references to Margaret Thatcher, because normally it's you or me, Steve, who competes to mention Mrs Thatcher first. But I was listening to the other podcast you produced this week. Oh, yes. Brilliant discussion, actually, of the relative power of prime ministers and chancellors. Oh, thank you. But it really is well worth listening. But you compare Margaret Thatcher to Dame Edna Everidge at one point in that podcast. Do you have anything to say for yourself?

I offer no formal apology for that comparison.

Towards the end of her period in power,

and it was a cabinet minister who made the comparison to me at the time.

She increasingly had the demeanour of Dame Edna Everidge. Indeed, I think that

last period, 87 to 90, is under-explored. In policy terms, she went crazy. We're talking about Margaret

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