Welcome to the conversation that matter podcast.

John Harris.

We're live now, and we have a lot to talk about this morning,

because as many of you know, the former President Donald Trump

had a attempted assassin try to take him out at a rally in Pennsylvania and we were

live streaming about this on Saturday night. Well since then of course many, many, myself included, have taken to the internet to give our opinions and to give hot takes and some of my takes have been considered, I suppose, somewhat spicy.

But one of the things that I did yesterday,

and I want to do this to set this up,

because we're going to talk about preachers and pastors

and churches and what their responsibilities should be in this.

So it'll be a worthwhile discussion.

But one of the things I want to talk about is the unfortunate response that I've seen in a lot of

churches. So I yesterday I'm just

going to set this up by saying someone very close to me I'll put it that way

gave me a call or shot me a text I should say and said essentially what their pastor told them on

Sunday and it was chiding them for being two concerns about earthly matters about the political matters surrounding

this event and they should be more in their Bible. Now every pastor knows their congregation,

every congregation is a little bit different.

And I understand that.

This is a, I would just say a larger church

where it's probably on a human scale level

impossible for the pastor to really know everyone in that church but but it really discouraged

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