Serena Kerrigan wasn't always the queen of confidence.

In fact, it was a night where she felt dejected that inspired her to launch her brand,

Serena effing Kerrigan.

We talk about the journey to confidence,

parlaying her college-made brand into an actual business,

including her card game, let's effing date,

and how her mother's immigrant experience

informs Serena's own appetite for risk.

Now, that was the part of the conversation I was prepared for.

What I did not anticipate is that Serena is at a crossroads.

She's 29 years old.

She's unpartnered.

She's freezing her eggs and wondering what it means for a person who preaches self-love

and self-sufficiency to still want more. Serena, thank you so much for doing this.

Thank you so much for having me.

Serena, you always say that confidence is a personal journey.

What did your personal journey to confidence look like?

Were you born the queen of confidence? I think that we're all born the queen or king of confidence.

As we get older, our view of ourselves gets infected by a comment made by a relationship with a parent or a family member or

friend, by not seeing ourselves presented in media, by societal expectations or limiting

beliefs of who we are. And then we begin to question our worth and spend the next years of our

lives either undoing the trauma or not.

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