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The film starts with a number of, let's call him, spokesman for science.

One is Lawrence Krauss, and I had a debate with him years ago where where his opening salvo in the debate was, usually when you are debating an issue, it's presumed that the person with whom you are speaking is worth talking to, and the issue that you are debating is worth discussing. But tonight, alas, that's not true.

Wow. Wow.

Hey, everyone. It's Andrew Claven with this week's interview with my friend Stephen Meyer,

just a terrific author, wrote a book called The Return of the God Hypothesis that I just love.

I recommend it to everybody.

I once teased him that it was such a good book that he made himself obsolete because he explained everything in a way that was inarguable. His thesis being that science has now, it now points the way to God, not away from God. I'm not sure whether it ever did, but it really is at least 100 years out of date to think

it did. And he's bringing this out as a film, this idea out as a film, a beautifully made film called The Story of Everything.

I haven't seen it on a big screen, but I will go and see it on a big screen because it's just

absolutely lovely to look at. And just, it makes you feel that people who convince you that

science has disproved God are not really paying attention. Steve, it's great to see you. It's great to be with you, Andrew. Again, we keep running into each other in different wonderful places. We do. We do. And it's always, it's always a pleasure. You're really good at this. I have to say, it's like it's not, you know, a lot of times the people who argue in favor of God, you know,

I believe them, but they're not really, they don't really have the facts and the gift to

convey how, how strongly the new science can, you know, it doesn't, you can't, you can't

prove the existence of God, but it certainly suggests

powerfully the existence of God. Tell, tell me how this film, the story of everything, how it

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