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Science Friday

How Science Communication Can Step Up Amid Federal Cuts

Science Friday

Science Friday and WNYC Studios

Life Sciences, Wnyc, Science, Earth Sciences, Natural Sciences, Friday

4.55.5K Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2025

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

As funding for US science is slashed, a science photographer and researcher takes a hard look at how scientists communicate their work.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Flora Lichtenen and you're listening to Science Friday.

0:07.0

Today in the show, bringing the public into science. Whose job is that?

0:12.4

There's no line item asking, well, what have you done lately with communicating to the public?

0:19.0

It ain't there.

0:24.0

I don't have to tell you that it is a precarious time for U.S. science. Federal funding is being

0:31.0

slashed, career scientists laid off, and researchers are considering leaving to work abroad.

0:40.8

On top of that, public trust in science and experts has declined. So for a lot of scientists, it's a time of reflection. What are we doing

0:47.2

wrong? What should we be doing differently? And to quote David Byrne, how did we get here?

0:53.1

Joining us with a perspective on these big questions is Felice Frankel, a science photographer

0:57.6

and a research scientist in the Department of Chemical Engineering at MIT.

1:01.8

She's also the author of the upcoming book, Phenomenal Moments, Revealing the Hidden Science

1:06.1

All Around Us out this fall.

1:08.3

Felice, welcome back to Science Friday.

1:10.3

Wonderful, wonderful to be here. Thanks,

1:12.2

Flora. You wrote me and you suggested we have a conversation about how, in your opinion,

1:18.6

the research community has failed in bringing the public into our world. I am very interested

1:24.9

in that, too, obviously, is what I do for a living. So I want to start

1:29.5

there. In your view, how is the research community failed the public? Yeah, it's a really important

1:36.7

question. And it's possible some of my colleagues will not agree with me, but I'm going to give

1:41.4

it a shot. Well, I like that as a way to start. Yeah,

1:44.5

let's get in it. For the most part, when I gather young researchers on campus for a workshop

1:52.8

in graphics, what we do is we look at the way they are visually representing their work.

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