Lorries backing up in Kent, a Mars bar shortage, and no more Rome city breaks – these are just some of the things that we have been warned about when it comes to a no deal Brexit. But what will really happen? Lara Prendergast talks to two people who disagree on almost everything. Lord Peter Lilley, Tory MP, has said that a no-deal Brexit would be better than the status quo; he’s joined by Ian Dunt, editor of politics.co.uk, who thinks that it would be an ‘unmitigated disaster’. It was a pretty fiery exchange from the two Brexit experts – the debate ranged from nuclear isotopes to Chinese kettles. Tune in to make your own mind up about no deal.

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