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How Saudi Arabia shaped Silicon Valley

Throughline

NPR

Society & Culture, Documentary, History

4.616.4K Ratings

🗓️ 26 March 2026

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Elon Musk. Donald Trump. Bill Gates. Sam Altman. Larry Ellison. Alex Karp.  Jared Kushner. Mr. Beast. Jeffrey Epstein… Those are just a few of the people who have been friendly with, and often done business with, Saudi Arabia over the last decade. Today on the show: how one of the world’s most authoritarian regimes became one of Silicon Valley’s biggest investors – and what that’s meant for the rest of us.

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0:00.0

November 4th, 2017.

0:03.9

The phone rings at around 4 in the morning.

0:07.3

A Saudi prince named El-Walid bin Talal answers.

0:11.4

Come right away.

0:12.7

A voice commands.

0:14.7

El-Walid bin Talal is a billionaire, a business partner of Bill Gates,

0:19.0

a stakeholder in Apple and Twitter, a guy not used to taking orders.

0:24.1

But his uncle is the king of Saudi Arabia, and he's told he wants to see him right away.

0:30.5

So he gets in his car and drives to the royal court, where another car pulls up.

0:36.9

Prince Adwalid is told to get in.

0:39.9

His driver, his guards, and his assistant are put in a different car.

0:44.1

There's no time to grab his phone.

0:46.5

And Prince El Walid finds himself completely alone.

0:51.6

It's a long drive up, almost like an official kind of road.

0:55.3

Heavy security on the outside and walls around it.

0:58.4

Perfectly manicured palm trees line the road.

1:01.5

As the sun begins to rise, Prince Al-Walid sees an extravagant mansion with towering columns

1:07.4

and rows of countless windows in the distance.

1:11.0

This is the Ritz-ton, Riyadh.

1:14.4

It's a huge fancy hotel, like visiting a French palace or something like that.

1:19.2

The car comes to a stop outside the grand entrance of the Ritz,

1:23.1

and Prince Al-Walid is ushered into the lobby.

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